In this compelling episode, Carrie Richardson interviews Justin Breen, a master connector who spends his days linking some of the world's most brilliant and misunderstood visionaries. Justin delves deep into the world of high EQ and IQ individuals—those rare few who are focused on creating lasting legacies rather than just building empires. Through his unique perspective, Justin shares how he identifies and connects these visionaries, allowing them to amplify their impact on the world.
Whether you're a visionary yourself or someone who wants to better understand the mindset of those who are changing the world, this episode is packed with insights. Justin also discusses the importance of tools like the Kolbe Index and how it helps visionaries understand their strengths and weaknesses, leading to greater alignment and success.
Episode Highlights:
- Connecting Visionaries: How Justin identifies and links some of the world's most misunderstood geniuses.
- Building Legacies vs. Empires: Why true visionaries focus on purpose over profit.
- The Kolbe Index: Understanding how your brain takes action and why it matters.
- Embracing Misunderstanding: The pain and power of being a misunderstood visionary.
- Family and Vision: Justin's reflections on raising children with a visionary mindset.
Notable Quotes:
- "Empires destroy. Legacies build."
- "Visionaries are not afraid of risk—they're not afraid of anything."
- "To be great is to be misunderstood."
Guest Information:
Justin Breen is a visionary connector, author, and entrepreneur dedicated to linking high EQ and IQ individuals who are focused on making a significant impact on the world. He is the founder of the Epic Fit Network, where he creates environments for these rare individuals to connect and collaborate.
Links and Resources Mentioned:
- Kolbe Index: kolbe.com
- Epic Fit Network: TheEpicFit.com
- Justin Breen's Books: Coming soon - "Epic Journey"
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00:00:00 --> 00:00:02 <v Carrie Richardson>So tell me a little bit about yourself.
00:00:03 --> 00:00:04 <v Justin Breen>Great to be here.
00:00:04 --> 00:00:07 <v Justin Breen>I just spend my day connecting visionaries to serve humanity.
00:00:07 --> 00:00:08 <v Justin Breen>So it's a lot of fun.
00:00:09 --> 00:00:10 <v Carrie Richardson>What does that look like?
00:00:10 --> 00:00:20 <v Justin Breen>Talking to the world's most understood brightest biggest empaths, highest EQIQ maybe one out of 10, 000 humans.
00:00:20 --> 00:00:25 <v Justin Breen>Finding them, and then connecting them to other misunderstood geniuses and then creating companies and purpose out of that.
00:00:27 --> 00:00:29 <v Carrie Richardson>Walk me through how the the process works.
00:00:30 --> 00:00:33 <v Justin Breen>You're strategic, and work in the nuts and bolts world.
00:00:33 --> 00:00:33 <v Justin Breen>I appreciate that.
00:00:34 --> 00:00:34 <v Justin Breen>Okay.
00:00:35 --> 00:00:36 <v Justin Breen>I don't care what someone does.
00:00:36 --> 00:00:38 <v Justin Breen>I don't care where they live.
00:00:38 --> 00:00:42 <v Justin Breen>I don't care how many employees they have a totally meaningless to me.
00:00:45 --> 00:00:52 <v Justin Breen>Visionaries want to change the world They live in pure full abundance and they look at everything as an investment, not cost.
00:00:52 --> 00:00:56 <v Justin Breen>If you want to put a label on them, I would say most of them are founders.
00:00:57 --> 00:00:59 <v Justin Breen>Most of them are very wealthy.
00:00:59 --> 00:01:00 <v Justin Breen>but some aren't.
00:01:00 --> 00:01:02 <v Justin Breen>They're all changing the world.
00:01:03 --> 00:01:07 <v Justin Breen>They're not transactional, they're living in purpose.
00:01:08 --> 00:01:10 <v Justin Breen>They're living well past their own lifetime.
00:01:11 --> 00:01:12 <v Justin Breen>They're not narcissists.
00:01:12 --> 00:01:16 <v Justin Breen>I, so I don't know if that answers the question, but that's how I look at things.
00:01:17 --> 00:01:20 <v Carrie Richardson>You're connecting people who are building legacies.
00:01:20 --> 00:01:22 <v Carrie Richardson>Versus empires.
00:01:25 --> 00:01:26 <v Justin Breen>Empires destroy.
00:01:29 --> 00:01:30 <v Carrie Richardson>Where were you before you were here?
00:01:31 --> 00:01:33 <v Justin Breen>You like to land the plane to understand, I understand.
00:01:33 --> 00:01:37 <v Justin Breen>I'm just a soul simplifier that connects soul amplifiers.
00:01:38 --> 00:01:42 <v Justin Breen>So amplifiers, they're the ones that create things that help the world create legacies.
00:01:42 --> 00:01:45 <v Justin Breen>And they're totally misunderstood by almost everyone.
00:01:45 --> 00:01:47 <v Justin Breen>And but I understand them and they understand me.
00:01:48 --> 00:01:49 <v Justin Breen>So I connect them.
00:01:49 --> 00:01:50 <v Justin Breen>That journey for me will never stop.
00:01:50 --> 00:01:56 <v Justin Breen>And then there's the technology that Allows it to go faster, but I've always been this person.
00:01:56 --> 00:02:01 <v Carrie Richardson>So we talked a lot about the Kolbe when we were interacting before this.
00:02:01 --> 00:02:06 <v Carrie Richardson>How did you come across Kolbe and why do you place so much meaning in the results?
00:02:08 --> 00:02:08 <v Justin Breen>Tremendous.
00:02:09 --> 00:02:09 <v Justin Breen>Yeah.
00:02:10 --> 00:02:11 <v Justin Breen>I love that question.
00:02:11 --> 00:02:17 <v Justin Breen>I guess for me, even though most of the time I'm flying the plane, Kolbe for me helps land it.
00:02:17 --> 00:02:20 <v Justin Breen>It helps simplify it because I just want the answer.
00:02:20 --> 00:02:24 <v Justin Breen>I don't need 3 million pieces of context or overthinking.
00:02:24 --> 00:02:25 <v Justin Breen>I just want the answer.
00:02:25 --> 00:02:25 <v Justin Breen>Just give me the answer.
00:02:26 --> 00:02:46 <v Justin Breen>So in terms of identifying a visionary in a number way, because I see the world in numbers and keywords, but in a number way, certainly usually, not always, but usually visionaries have Kolbe's similar to yours, which is for those, uh, I guess I will provide context here, but so yours is a three, three, nine, four.
00:02:47 --> 00:02:48 <v Justin Breen>Kolbe.
00:02:48 --> 00:02:49 <v Justin Breen>com, K O L B E.
00:02:50 --> 00:02:52 <v Justin Breen>com, A index, it takes 20 minutes.
00:02:53 --> 00:02:55 <v Justin Breen>It measures how your brain takes action.
00:02:55 --> 00:02:57 <v Justin Breen>I don't care, what you do or where you live, that's totally meaningless.
00:02:57 --> 00:02:59 <v Justin Breen>I just want to know if you're going to do something.
00:03:00 --> 00:03:04 <v Justin Breen>And then most visionaries are like you, like a 3 3 9 4.
00:03:04 --> 00:03:13 <v Justin Breen>The average score of the visionary I talk to is a 3, so you're a 3 So the 9, Quick start.
00:03:13 --> 00:03:14 <v Justin Breen>That means boom idea.
00:03:15 --> 00:03:16 <v Justin Breen>10 is the highest.
00:03:16 --> 00:03:18 <v Justin Breen>Most people I talked to are nine in human world.
00:03:18 --> 00:03:19 <v Justin Breen>And nine quick starts.
00:03:19 --> 00:03:19 <v Justin Breen>Pretty rare.
00:03:19 --> 00:03:20 <v Justin Breen>In my world.
00:03:20 --> 00:03:21 <v Justin Breen>It's average.
00:03:22 --> 00:03:24 <v Justin Breen>And also having a nine quick start means you're not afraid of risk.
00:03:24 --> 00:03:26 <v Justin Breen>Visionaries are not afraid of anything.
00:03:26 --> 00:03:27 <v Justin Breen>They're not afraid.
00:03:27 --> 00:03:28 <v Justin Breen>Most humans are.
00:03:28 --> 00:03:34 <v Justin Breen>They're dependent on the visionary to give them A job or I don't know, a salary, whatever which is fine.
00:03:34 --> 00:03:35 <v Justin Breen>That's fine.
00:03:35 --> 00:03:41 <v Justin Breen>And then most visionaries, not all, but most are very similar to your follow through, which is a three.
00:03:41 --> 00:03:42 <v Justin Breen>One is the lowest.
00:03:43 --> 00:03:45 <v Justin Breen>So you're a nine quick start three follow through.
00:03:45 --> 00:03:48 <v Justin Breen>So without humans or a stabilizer and an assistant.
00:03:48 --> 00:04:06 <v Justin Breen>Or being married to a stabilizing human disaster usually, total disaster, because that's ADD, ADHD, diagnosed or undiagnosed, it's not a disorder, sign of genius, mislabeled by humans who don't understand visionaries, because visionaries are the most understood people on planet, and I just connect misunderstood people to help them.
00:04:07 --> 00:04:08 <v Justin Breen>Find understanding.
00:04:08 --> 00:04:09 <v Justin Breen>Okay, so that's yours.
00:04:09 --> 00:04:09 <v Justin Breen>3, 3, 9 4.
00:04:09 --> 00:04:15 <v Justin Breen>And then I'm the very very rare visionary who is 8, 6, 7 1.
00:04:15 --> 00:04:16 <v Justin Breen>It's a unicorn score.
00:04:16 --> 00:04:18 <v Justin Breen>I've never met another 8, 6, 7 1.
00:04:18 --> 00:04:27 <v Justin Breen>So I have seven quick start, which is high six follow through, which for a visionaries astronomically off the charts, it's, that doesn't really exist.
00:04:28 --> 00:04:30 <v Justin Breen>And then I'm also a very high fact finder.
00:04:30 --> 00:04:31 <v Justin Breen>Eight is the fact finder.
00:04:31 --> 00:04:32 <v Justin Breen>10 is the highest.
00:04:33 --> 00:04:34 <v Justin Breen>I've never met a 10 fact finder.
00:04:34 --> 00:04:35 <v Justin Breen>I don't think I will.
00:04:35 --> 00:04:38 <v Justin Breen>Only met three or four nines and I'm an eight.
00:04:39 --> 00:04:43 <v Justin Breen>So I'm like a visionary integrator and researcher in one person.
00:04:43 --> 00:04:50 <v Justin Breen>And then you're a, you're just a pure visionary with a little bit of implementing skills, like you can build stuff with your hands.
00:04:51 --> 00:04:51 <v Justin Breen>Or draw or something
00:04:52 --> 00:04:54 <v Carrie Richardson>I like doing crafty things,
00:04:54 --> 00:04:58 <v Justin Breen>So your numbers don't have a defined beginning or end, right?
00:04:58 --> 00:04:59 <v Justin Breen>Where you can pick up.
00:04:59 --> 00:05:04 <v Justin Breen>It's not you have no follow through and it's not going to be an end so then you can explain what I just said by knowing your number.
00:05:04 --> 00:05:09 <v Carrie Richardson>One of the things I went and reviewed my Kolbe because I had looked at it in years.
00:05:09 --> 00:05:13 <v Carrie Richardson>We worked with a consultant that used Kolbe as a personality assessment.
00:05:13 --> 00:05:15 <v Justin Breen>Not your personality has nothing to do with it.
00:05:16 --> 00:05:17 <v Justin Breen>That's why I like it.
00:05:18 --> 00:05:21 <v Carrie Richardson>Are you saying that the, your Kolbe score won't change over time?
00:05:21 --> 00:05:22 <v Carrie Richardson>It'll be like that forever.
00:05:22 --> 00:05:23 <v Justin Breen>Great question.
00:05:23 --> 00:05:28 <v Justin Breen>So that, and that also has nothing to do with it, but it has Kolbe is how your brain It's action.
00:05:28 --> 00:05:30 <v Justin Breen>It has nothing to do with your personality.
00:05:31 --> 00:05:32 <v Justin Breen>Kolbe changes 12 percent of the time.
00:05:32 --> 00:05:34 <v Justin Breen>Here's where I see it change.
00:05:35 --> 00:05:39 <v Justin Breen>I talked to someone in my world visionary world.
00:05:39 --> 00:05:44 <v Justin Breen>I'll talk to someone and let's say they're a 6 quick start and they'll be talking like you're talking right now.
00:05:45 --> 00:05:49 <v Justin Breen>I'm like, you're not a, you're not a 6 quick start you're an 8 or 9 and they retake it.
00:05:49 --> 00:05:51 <v Justin Breen>And then they're an 8 or 9 and they're like, how'd you know that?
00:05:51 --> 00:05:55 <v Justin Breen>I go well, because you were surrounded by humans and you thought you had to be this type of person.
00:05:55 --> 00:05:59 <v Justin Breen>So you trapped yourself into being a 6 quick start, but you're not you're a 9.
00:06:00 --> 00:06:04 <v Justin Breen>It does change 12 percent of the time, but 88 percent of the time it doesn't.
00:06:04 --> 00:06:07 <v Justin Breen>People like us usually marry stabilizing humans, and if not, it's Thelma and Louise.
00:06:07 --> 00:06:09 <v Justin Breen>Imagine being married to yourself.
00:06:09 --> 00:06:10 <v Justin Breen>Two problems.
00:06:11 --> 00:06:12 <v Justin Breen>Yeah, crash and burn.
00:06:14 --> 00:06:18 <v Justin Breen>Visionaries will start the fire in their own building to create the solution to that problem.
00:06:18 --> 00:06:24 <v Justin Breen>Usually people like us, my wife's a pediatrician and who runs the company, and she runs our company.
00:06:25 --> 00:06:31 <v Justin Breen>So usually like a pediatrician, a stabilizer, an engineer, a lawyer, a human.
00:06:32 --> 00:06:34 <v Justin Breen>That's high achieving human, but it's stabilized.
00:06:35 --> 00:06:37 <v Justin Breen>But so I'm 47.
00:06:37 --> 00:06:39 <v Justin Breen>I've been like this my whole life.
00:06:39 --> 00:06:55 <v Justin Breen>Unconsciously, I was like this my whole life and then consciously becoming an entrepreneur seven years ago and then really consciously getting the second company going and then like off the charts, awareness, consciousness finishing this third book.
00:06:55 --> 00:06:58 <v Justin Breen>My favorite quote had been from Earl Nightingale.
00:06:58 --> 00:06:58 <v Justin Breen>He's the O.
00:06:58 --> 00:06:58 <v Justin Breen>G.
00:06:58 --> 00:07:00 <v Justin Breen>he's long gone, but he's the O.
00:07:00 --> 00:07:00 <v Justin Breen>G.
00:07:01 --> 00:07:05 <v Justin Breen>and my favorite quote from him was success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal.
00:07:05 --> 00:07:08 <v Justin Breen>Success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal.
00:07:08 --> 00:07:12 <v Justin Breen>So my worthy ideal is connecting visionaries to serve humanity.
00:07:12 --> 00:07:16 <v Justin Breen>I'm just going to keep getting progressively Better at that constantly.
00:07:18 --> 00:07:22 <v Carrie Richardson>So is there a group of me like how to how do we all connect?
00:07:25 --> 00:07:28 <v Justin Breen>I invest well over 100 K a year to be in the right rooms.
00:07:29 --> 00:07:31 <v Justin Breen>And I love the rooms that I'm in that I invest in.
00:07:31 --> 00:07:31 <v Justin Breen>It's great.
00:07:32 --> 00:07:37 <v Justin Breen>But was tired of being in rooms where many folks act like they're visionaries, but they're not.
00:07:37 --> 00:07:38 <v Justin Breen>They're only worried about.
00:07:38 --> 00:07:41 <v Justin Breen>Finance or raising money in this lifetime.
00:07:42 --> 00:07:43 <v Justin Breen>And I can see right through it.
00:07:43 --> 00:07:45 <v Justin Breen>Because it was journalist for 20 years.
00:07:46 --> 00:07:51 <v Justin Breen>And you don't get into that for raising money and you just can, you just talk to people and listen to them.
00:07:51 --> 00:07:55 <v Justin Breen>I was just tired of being in rooms where most of the people are saying something, but they're acting much different.
00:07:55 --> 00:08:05 <v Justin Breen>Cause talk is meaningless to me, unless you do something created a room with a hundred percent visionaries who are a hundred percent are living well past their own lifetimes and they want to serve humanity.
00:08:05 --> 00:08:08 <v Justin Breen>my partner's an empath who does eight and nine figure deals all day.
00:08:08 --> 00:08:11 <v Justin Breen>That makes absolutely no sense, but that's what it is.
00:08:11 --> 00:08:12 <v Justin Breen>And then they've built the company.
00:08:14 --> 00:08:17 <v Justin Breen>So we have a virtual meetings 3 to 4 a month.
00:08:17 --> 00:08:18 <v Justin Breen>We have in person meetings.
00:08:18 --> 00:08:21 <v Justin Breen>We just started an MBA program for our members.
00:08:21 --> 00:08:28 <v Justin Breen>We have our own TV channel now with 30 million reach for our members to have their own shows on and started a philanthropic wing.
00:08:29 --> 00:08:32 <v Justin Breen>But I don't do any of that stuff that would, I would destroy the company.
00:08:32 --> 00:08:36 <v Justin Breen>If I got involved with that and just let others who are much better at it, do it.
00:08:37 --> 00:08:38 <v Carrie Richardson>What is the name of the company?
00:08:38 --> 00:08:40 <v Justin Breen>Oh Epic fit network.
00:08:40 --> 00:08:43 <v Justin Breen>It's the website is the epic fit.
00:08:43 --> 00:08:44 <v Justin Breen>com, the epic fit.
00:08:45 --> 00:08:45 <v Justin Breen>com.
00:08:50 --> 00:08:56 <v Carrie Richardson>So your highest and best use in your organization is as a connector.
00:08:58 --> 00:09:01 <v Justin Breen>So as simple as that question was.
00:09:02 --> 00:09:04 <v Justin Breen>That's one of the best questions I've ever heard.
00:09:06 --> 00:09:07 <v Justin Breen>One, thank you for asking that.
00:09:08 --> 00:09:12 <v Justin Breen>I'm just a connector at the very highest level possible.
00:09:12 --> 00:09:30 <v Justin Breen>And all I want is better and better connections, but I will explain what that means one, it's with visionaries, I think as important, if not more important, it's connecting patterns in a way That certainly visionaries can understand, but also the people in visionaries lives can understand, so they can understand them.
00:09:32 --> 00:09:39 <v Justin Breen>And somehow, I don't know how, but my heart and brain, they're combined, they're able to make that connection.
00:09:39 --> 00:09:43 <v Justin Breen>That, that's, it's probably because that's all I'm focused on.
00:09:43 --> 00:09:44 <v Justin Breen>I don't think about anything else.
00:09:44 --> 00:09:46 <v Justin Breen>Holding a pencil is very hard for me.
00:09:47 --> 00:09:57 <v Justin Breen>I just, we just broke the blinds in our house so the blinds are just gonna, it's just gonna lay there, get someone to fix it, but maybe you can help, you could probably do it, but you're a high implementer, but
00:09:58 --> 00:10:00 <v Carrie Richardson>I would just take a sheet and some tacks.
00:10:00 --> 00:10:01 <v Carrie Richardson>That would be my solution.
00:10:01 --> 00:10:02 <v Carrie Richardson>Simplicity.
00:10:03 --> 00:10:03 <v Justin Breen>Perfect.
00:10:03 --> 00:10:03 <v Justin Breen>Yeah.
00:10:03 --> 00:10:04 <v Justin Breen>Thank you.
00:10:04 --> 00:10:04 <v Justin Breen>Yeah.
00:10:04 --> 00:10:06 <v Justin Breen>I'm getting dread thinking about that right now.
00:10:06 --> 00:10:17 <v Justin Breen>So because it's such a singular focus and success as progressive realization, where the ideal, then it just keeps getting progressively, it just gets more and more interesting.
00:10:17 --> 00:10:18 <v Justin Breen>And then.
00:10:20 --> 00:10:31 <v Justin Breen>And then just keep writing about those patterns and connectivity and this epic journey book I don't know how to explain it other than it came from a higher power that just channeled through me.
00:10:31 --> 00:10:33 <v Justin Breen>So I wasn't like that even.
00:10:34 --> 00:10:44 <v Justin Breen>A couple of months ago, so very grateful to, to be able to have this ability and then to help people with it to help.
00:10:44 --> 00:10:50 <v Carrie Richardson>They say that when Bill Wilson wrote the book of Alcoholics Anonymous that he was divinely inspired by it.
00:10:50 --> 00:10:58 <v Carrie Richardson>And it has been called the single greatest contribution to humanity made, by a human
00:10:59 --> 00:10:59 <v Justin Breen>alien.
00:10:59 --> 00:11:01 <v Justin Breen>But yes, a human, a barely human.
00:11:01 --> 00:11:02 <v Justin Breen>Yeah.
00:11:03 --> 00:11:04 <v Carrie Richardson>He was an interesting fellow.
00:11:04 --> 00:11:07 <v Justin Breen>So interesting, eclectic, what would a human call him?
00:11:07 --> 00:11:08 <v Justin Breen>Weird, crazy.
00:11:09 --> 00:11:10 <v Justin Breen>But again, to be great.
00:11:10 --> 00:11:18 <v Justin Breen>So my favorite quote now is from Emerson Emerson from the 1840s to be great is to be, misunderstood to be great is to be misunderstood.
00:11:20 --> 00:11:30 <v Justin Breen>And when you're misunderstood your entire life it's very painful, but it's also necessary to reach the highest level of consciousness.
00:11:30 --> 00:11:31 <v Justin Breen>It's that type of pain.
00:11:32 --> 00:11:44 <v Justin Breen>In one of our meetings we had A man named Alfonso James come to speak to the group and Alfonso he spent 32 years in prison, 32 years in prison for a crime he did not commit.
00:11:44 --> 00:11:45 <v Justin Breen>He wasn't even at the scene.
00:11:45 --> 00:11:48 <v Justin Breen>First degree murder, not at the scene, 32 years in prison.
00:11:49 --> 00:11:56 <v Justin Breen>And so he spoke to the group about how grateful I repeat how grateful he was for that for that experience.
00:11:56 --> 00:11:57 <v Justin Breen>For context.
00:11:57 --> 00:12:02 <v Justin Breen>So he was 32 years in prison, Nelson Mandela served 27, 27 years, so five more than Mandela.
00:12:03 --> 00:12:12 <v Justin Breen>And and then so Alfonso and I become friends and then one of the chapters in Epic Journeys about him and the chapters about the quote he sent to me after we became friends.
00:12:13 --> 00:12:15 <v Justin Breen>He that is perfect is perfecting perfection in me.
00:12:16 --> 00:12:18 <v Justin Breen>He that is perfect is perfecting perfection in me.
00:12:19 --> 00:12:20 <v Justin Breen>So that's the quote he lives by.
00:12:21 --> 00:12:25 <v Justin Breen>So that to me is like a higher power of success is the progressive realization of a worthy ideal.
00:12:30 --> 00:12:31 <v Carrie Richardson>How do you spend your days?
00:12:32 --> 00:12:33 <v Justin Breen>Like this.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:33 <v Justin Breen>Yeah.
00:12:33 --> 00:12:37 <v Justin Breen>It's either like this or our sons are 11 and 9.
00:12:37 --> 00:12:38 <v Justin Breen>They're both 9 quick starts.
00:12:39 --> 00:12:45 <v Justin Breen>Unemployable little versions of Earl Nightingale our 11 year old son, Jake, just won his first overall 5k title.
00:12:46 --> 00:12:48 <v Justin Breen>Against 308, mostly adults.
00:12:49 --> 00:12:51 <v Justin Breen>And just, and just a very kind, loving child.
00:12:53 --> 00:12:56 <v Justin Breen>And then our nine year old's a little pure little version of Earl Nightngale.
00:12:56 --> 00:12:58 <v Justin Breen>We talked about bending time and IQ.
00:12:58 --> 00:13:00 <v Justin Breen>He considers life one long, great day.
00:13:00 --> 00:13:01 <v Justin Breen>Yesterday's before you were born.
00:13:01 --> 00:13:03 <v Justin Breen>Tomorrow's after you die.
00:13:03 --> 00:13:08 <v Justin Breen>So there's no days or weeks and all that, whatever that stuff is, human construct.
00:13:08 --> 00:13:09 <v Justin Breen>And then there are two ways to have a great day.
00:13:09 --> 00:13:11 <v Justin Breen>One, create more living things.
00:13:12 --> 00:13:14 <v Justin Breen>Two, do what you like to do and what you're good at and keep getting better at it.
00:13:14 --> 00:13:18 <v Justin Breen>So that was when we were talking like that when he was eight.
00:13:18 --> 00:13:21 <v Justin Breen>Now he makes cool drawings about triangle partnerships.
00:13:21 --> 00:13:22 <v Justin Breen>I spent a lot of time with them.
00:13:22 --> 00:13:27 <v Justin Breen>And then having a heart and brain like this as you can imagine, can be overwhelming at times.
00:13:27 --> 00:13:35 <v Justin Breen>So we play a lot of baseball we go fishing a lot We have a lot of free time to diffuse and relax the heart and brain.
00:13:37 --> 00:13:39 <v Carrie Richardson>So is your wife's a pediatrician.
00:13:39 --> 00:13:40 <v Carrie Richardson>What is her Kolbe?
00:13:42 --> 00:13:44 <v Justin Breen>She's an 8742.
00:13:46 --> 00:13:53 <v Justin Breen>If and when she retakes it, which she probably will because it changes 12 percent of the time and hers definitely has changed because you asked about it.
00:13:53 --> 00:14:02 <v Justin Breen>The talk is meaningless without an answer, but she would probably be a seven, seven, Five or six, her quick starts gone up to a five or six.
00:14:02 --> 00:14:04 <v Justin Breen>It's not a seven, but it's a five or six.
00:14:04 --> 00:14:06 <v Justin Breen>And then she's probably a one implementer now.
00:14:07 --> 00:14:14 <v Carrie Richardson>So are the eights, the thing that make you compatible or the differences, the things that make you compatible?
00:14:16 --> 00:14:19 <v Justin Breen>Without speaking for her I'll answer for how I feel it does.
00:14:19 --> 00:14:22 <v Justin Breen>I'll answer it in a non Kolbe way.
00:14:22 --> 00:14:27 <v Justin Breen>Other than because I think Kolbe for us is somewhat compatible.
00:14:27 --> 00:14:36 <v Justin Breen>Usually people like us have your type of score and then they'll marry someone like Sarah's score because it's collaborative follow through, which I don't need that.
00:14:36 --> 00:14:40 <v Justin Breen>Our scores are fairly similar and then my quick start has pushed her quick start to go up.
00:14:42 --> 00:14:49 <v Justin Breen>But in Sarah's, in my case, I would say Gallup Clifton Strength finders, it's a better it's a better collaborative match.
00:14:49 --> 00:14:50 <v Justin Breen>Meaning this.
00:14:51 --> 00:14:55 <v Justin Breen>So Sarah is Harmony Relator Achiever.
00:14:56 --> 00:14:57 <v Justin Breen>Harmony Relator Achiever.
00:14:58 --> 00:14:59 <v Carrie Richardson>That's her question profile?
00:15:00 --> 00:15:00 <v Justin Breen>Yes.
00:15:00 --> 00:15:01 <v Justin Breen>Harmony Relator Achiever.
00:15:01 --> 00:15:01 <v Justin Breen>Okay.
00:15:02 --> 00:15:05 <v Justin Breen>So I am 31 out of 34 in Harmony.
00:15:06 --> 00:15:08 <v Justin Breen>So she is Collaborative Harmony.
00:15:08 --> 00:15:10 <v Justin Breen>I'm somewhat high in Relator.
00:15:11 --> 00:15:17 <v Justin Breen>But she's collaborative or later she can talk and harmonize with anyone.
00:15:17 --> 00:15:21 <v Justin Breen>As you can imagine the way I talk and feel and think it does not agree.
00:15:22 --> 00:15:26 <v Justin Breen>And then, so I am activator maximizer achiever.
00:15:27 --> 00:15:33 <v Justin Breen>So Sarah and I are both achiever three, but she just does it with sunshine and rainbows and kumbaya stuff.
00:15:33 --> 00:15:36 <v Carrie Richardson>I'm an ideation activator command,
00:15:36 --> 00:15:43 <v Justin Breen>I'm 32 out of 34 in ideation, 95 percent of the people I talked to our top five in ideation and or futuristic.
00:15:43 --> 00:15:45 <v Justin Breen>So they're often wherever that world is.
00:15:45 --> 00:15:49 <v Justin Breen>Which is great, but they have a mix of activator maximizer and achievers.
00:15:49 --> 00:15:51 <v Justin Breen>So they're often future world, but they'll do something about it.
00:15:51 --> 00:15:56 <v Justin Breen>Now, if you're often future world and don't do anything to activate it pointless.
00:15:57 --> 00:16:03 <v Justin Breen>I am a simplifier and I hear, I talk to ADD folks whether they're diagnosed or undiagnosed and they're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:16:05 --> 00:16:06 <v Justin Breen>And I'm like no.
00:16:06 --> 00:16:07 <v Justin Breen>Yes, connect.
00:16:07 --> 00:16:08 <v Justin Breen>No, yes, connect.
00:16:08 --> 00:16:09 <v Justin Breen>No, yes, connect.
00:16:09 --> 00:16:10 <v Justin Breen>Yes, connect.
00:16:10 --> 00:16:16 <v Justin Breen>And then they amplify however they want to, I don't care what they do with it as long as they help humanity, it doesn't matter to me.
00:16:16 --> 00:16:17 <v Justin Breen>Just help somebody with it.
00:16:18 --> 00:16:23 <v Carrie Richardson>So are you thinking there is a high link between those quick starts and the ADHD diagnosis.
00:16:24 --> 00:16:29 <v Justin Breen>No, I don't think that there's that's well eight fact finder kicking in.
00:16:29 --> 00:16:37 <v Justin Breen>So when you talk to thousands of pound thousands and then in our room, there are only four people under a seven quickstart, only four members.
00:16:37 --> 00:16:42 <v Justin Breen>But no, it's, Because high quick start represents not afraid of risk.
00:16:42 --> 00:16:49 <v Justin Breen>A true visionary is not really a true visionary, but not a business owner, not a consultant.
00:16:49 --> 00:16:53 <v Justin Breen>A true visionary is not afraid of anything.
00:16:54 --> 00:16:55 <v Justin Breen>Nothing.
00:16:56 --> 00:16:58 <v Justin Breen>Because if you're your own limiter, how can you help?
00:16:59 --> 00:16:59 <v Justin Breen>How can you truly help?
00:16:59 --> 00:17:00 <v Justin Breen>If you have limits.
00:17:01 --> 00:17:05 <v Justin Breen>And you're talking about unlocking other people's limits and you have limits.
00:17:05 --> 00:17:07 <v Justin Breen>It's hypocrisy.
00:17:07 --> 00:17:08 <v Justin Breen>It's complete hypocrisy.
00:17:08 --> 00:17:10 <v Justin Breen>And I hear that all the time.
00:17:10 --> 00:17:16 <v Justin Breen>I talk to people all the time that talk about this vision and stuff and all that.
00:17:16 --> 00:17:17 <v Justin Breen>And then they ask, what do you cost or charge?
00:17:17 --> 00:17:18 <v Justin Breen>They're their own limiter.
00:17:19 --> 00:17:21 <v Carrie Richardson>How do you moderate a room full of nines?
00:17:23 --> 00:17:23 <v Justin Breen>Best question.
00:17:23 --> 00:17:24 <v Justin Breen>Second best question.
00:17:24 --> 00:17:27 <v Justin Breen>So here's what happens because it's collaborative understanding.
00:17:28 --> 00:17:33 <v Justin Breen>Oh, finally a whole room of people that understand me, not narcissists, not people trying to sell something.
00:17:33 --> 00:17:37 <v Justin Breen>Sell comes from the word sale, which means dull and dirty, nothing to sell.
00:17:38 --> 00:17:40 <v Justin Breen>That's why I'm like, I don't even want to say the name of my company.
00:17:40 --> 00:17:43 <v Justin Breen>I don't, it's, you had to force that out of me, which I appreciate that.
00:17:43 --> 00:17:45 <v Justin Breen>But that's when there's collaborative empathy.
00:17:46 --> 00:17:48 <v Justin Breen>Finally understanding and then it's the greatest room of all time.
00:17:49 --> 00:17:52 <v Justin Breen>That's what happens because the people finally understand each other.
00:17:53 --> 00:17:55 <v Justin Breen>To be great is to be misunderstood.
00:17:55 --> 00:18:00 <v Justin Breen>That's why it's the greatest room because it's the most understanding of the most understood people.
00:18:00 --> 00:18:01 <v Justin Breen>Great question.
00:18:02 --> 00:18:03 <v Justin Breen>Everyone calms down.
00:18:05 --> 00:18:08 <v Carrie Richardson>Is it based on attraction or promotion?
00:18:08 --> 00:18:09 <v Carrie Richardson>How do you bring more people together?
00:18:09 --> 00:18:11 <v Carrie Richardson>How do we find you?
00:18:11 --> 00:18:12 <v Justin Breen>Thank you.
00:18:13 --> 00:18:23 <v Justin Breen>At this point most of the time, most of the time there, most of the time, and I know I reached out to you because there was a you and Dave's one of our members.
00:18:23 --> 00:18:24 <v Justin Breen>He's a 10 quick start.
00:18:25 --> 00:18:26 <v Justin Breen>Dave Marcinkowski.
00:18:26 --> 00:18:27 <v Carrie Richardson>Dave.
00:18:27 --> 00:18:29 <v Carrie Richardson>I can't keep up with Dave.
00:18:29 --> 00:18:29 <v Justin Breen>No one can keep up.
00:18:29 --> 00:18:31 <v Carrie Richardson>I loved interviewing him.
00:18:31 --> 00:18:33 <v Carrie Richardson>His mind just moves a hundred miles a minute.
00:18:33 --> 00:18:33 <v Justin Breen>It's his heart.
00:18:33 --> 00:18:36 <v Justin Breen>It's his heart that propels his mind.
00:18:36 --> 00:18:37 <v Justin Breen>His heart is first.
00:18:38 --> 00:18:39 <v Justin Breen>So it's a room full of Dave's.
00:18:39 --> 00:18:41 <v Justin Breen>He's one of our members, he's a 10 quick start.
00:18:41 --> 00:18:43 <v Justin Breen>A 10 quick start is one out of 200 humans.
00:18:44 --> 00:18:47 <v Justin Breen>In my world, it's like one out of eight, one out of one out of nine.
00:18:47 --> 00:18:48 <v Justin Breen>One out of nine, but yeah.
00:18:51 --> 00:18:54 <v Justin Breen>But in that room, people calm down, they slow down.
00:18:54 --> 00:18:56 <v Justin Breen>And then to answer your question, now my six follow through is kicking in.
00:18:57 --> 00:19:02 <v Justin Breen>So at first, certainly there had to be promotion and all that kind of stuff, which.
00:19:03 --> 00:19:04 <v Justin Breen>I understand.
00:19:04 --> 00:19:04 <v Justin Breen>I get it.
00:19:04 --> 00:19:05 <v Justin Breen>You have to build something.
00:19:07 --> 00:19:18 <v Justin Breen>But at this point, what has happened is mostly members are starting to introduce their fellow misunderstood friends, and that it'll scale itself based on their based on that.
00:19:18 --> 00:19:24 <v Justin Breen>What I will say, because it's a fair question is when epic journey book comes out.
00:19:25 --> 00:19:30 <v Justin Breen>I guess my personal role and it's scaling will be that book, because that book is.
00:19:32 --> 00:19:36 <v Justin Breen>That book is far more important than anything I've personally ever done.
00:19:37 --> 00:19:40 <v Justin Breen>It's the most important thing besides having family.
00:19:40 --> 00:19:42 <v Justin Breen>But this is not a book.
00:19:42 --> 00:19:46 <v Justin Breen>I don't, it's just not, I don't say that lightly, but it's.
00:19:47 --> 00:19:50 <v Justin Breen>It's just not so put everything into it.
00:19:50 --> 00:19:52 <v Justin Breen>Every bit of my soul and heart into it.
00:19:53 --> 00:19:54 <v Justin Breen>Everything.
00:19:57 --> 00:20:06 <v Carrie Richardson>One of the people that facilitates a peer group for technology entrepreneurs mentioned that there are three ways you can interact in a business.
00:20:07 --> 00:20:13 <v Carrie Richardson>You have a calling a career or a job, and it sounds like you most definitely have found your calling.
00:20:14 --> 00:20:15 <v Justin Breen>Thanks for saying that.
00:20:15 --> 00:20:18 <v Justin Breen>And then even though I said it one or two times in this interview, I.
00:20:18 --> 00:20:28 <v Justin Breen>I really don't, I really do not like the word business and I make people aware of it when they say it because business comes from the old English word"by zingus"(translation error), which means anxiety.
00:20:29 --> 00:20:35 <v Justin Breen>So anytime I ever heard anyone talking about that word, it, you just hear the anxiety behind it.
00:20:35 --> 00:20:35 <v Justin Breen>Why?
00:20:35 --> 00:20:37 <v Justin Breen>Because that's what the word means.
00:20:37 --> 00:20:38 <v Justin Breen>That's what it means.
00:20:39 --> 00:20:40 <v Justin Breen>And it's a human construct.
00:20:41 --> 00:20:42 <v Justin Breen>It's just a human construct.
00:20:42 --> 00:20:51 <v Justin Breen>It's been trumpeted and highlighted saluted and literally it just means anxiety.
00:20:51 --> 00:20:52 <v Justin Breen>That's what it means.
00:20:56 --> 00:21:01 <v Carrie Richardson>How do people move towards your vision for the world?
00:21:02 --> 00:21:03 <v Justin Breen>That's up to them.
00:21:03 --> 00:21:10 <v Justin Breen>My father was 61 when I was born and then he was a World War II hero and then he kept a diary from his fighting experiences, his fighting experiences.
00:21:10 --> 00:21:17 <v Justin Breen>On New Year's Eve, on New Year's Eve 19 44, one of the entries, he watches, watched his friend die in a plane.
00:21:17 --> 00:21:18 <v Justin Breen>This is graphic warning.
00:21:18 --> 00:21:19 <v Justin Breen>This is graphic.
00:21:20 --> 00:21:22 <v Justin Breen>So watch his friend die in a plane crash.
00:21:22 --> 00:21:24 <v Justin Breen>And then his friend's face melted off.
00:21:24 --> 00:21:29 <v Justin Breen>His skull was exposed and his legs melted off, stumped, charred legs.
00:21:30 --> 00:21:31 <v Justin Breen>So he watched that.
00:21:31 --> 00:21:36 <v Justin Breen>And then 20 minutes later, his commanding officer said to him and his friend, Hey, can you do another mission?
00:21:36 --> 00:21:38 <v Justin Breen>And then they said, yeah, They were excited to go on it.
00:21:38 --> 00:21:40 <v Justin Breen>So that's a visionary.
00:21:40 --> 00:21:41 <v Justin Breen>Most people can't do that.
00:21:41 --> 00:21:44 <v Justin Breen>So I don't understand not thinking and feeling like that.
00:21:44 --> 00:21:45 <v Justin Breen>I don't, it's confusing to me.
00:21:47 --> 00:21:48 <v Justin Breen>It's confusing.
00:21:48 --> 00:21:50 <v Justin Breen>So true, that's a true visionary.
00:21:50 --> 00:21:59 <v Justin Breen>So what I will say is a true visionary, if they don't feel the way I feel, they're not, to me, they're not a true visionary.
00:21:59 --> 00:22:00 <v Justin Breen>It's really up to them.
00:22:00 --> 00:22:03 <v Justin Breen>And what I've seen in our room is everyone feels like that.
00:22:04 --> 00:22:09 <v Justin Breen>And acts like that, and then they want to help attract others.
00:22:10 --> 00:22:11 <v Justin Breen>They want to attract others to that.
00:22:11 --> 00:22:20 <v Justin Breen>Because of the great misunderstanding of people like us with everyone else, and then people like us are the ones that create everything that actually help everyone else and everyone else isn't even aware of it.
00:22:21 --> 00:22:26 <v Justin Breen>I guess technically it's my vision, but I was given a gift and it's my responsibility.
00:22:26 --> 00:22:30 <v Justin Breen>Like it was my dad's responsibility to go on that mission after he watched his friend melt.
00:22:30 --> 00:22:31 <v Justin Breen>You just do it.
00:22:31 --> 00:22:31 <v Justin Breen>No choice.
00:22:31 --> 00:22:32 <v Justin Breen>You have to do it.
00:22:37 --> 00:22:38 <v Carrie Richardson>So what's next then?
00:22:40 --> 00:22:43 <v Justin Breen>Success is progressive realization of worthy ideal.
00:22:43 --> 00:22:46 <v Justin Breen>If I, my heart and gut tell me to do something, I do it.
00:22:46 --> 00:22:47 <v Justin Breen>No questions.
00:22:48 --> 00:22:49 <v Justin Breen>I don't really live in the future.
00:22:49 --> 00:22:54 <v Justin Breen>I live in the present my wife's grandmother who passed away a couple of years ago.
00:22:55 --> 00:22:58 <v Justin Breen>To paraphrase her, she always talked about present as a gift.
00:22:58 --> 00:22:59 <v Justin Breen>So presence, present as a gift.
00:22:59 --> 00:23:03 <v Justin Breen>What's next today?
00:23:03 --> 00:23:05 <v Carrie Richardson>You're doing the work that's in front of you today.
00:23:07 --> 00:23:08 <v Justin Breen>Yes, correct.
00:23:08 --> 00:23:09 <v Justin Breen>It's a good question.
00:23:09 --> 00:23:12 <v Justin Breen>The next meeting I have is with a great man named Roosevelt Giles.
00:23:15 --> 00:23:16 <v Justin Breen>He's in the book too.
00:23:16 --> 00:23:18 <v Justin Breen>And so because you asked it, it makes sense.
00:23:18 --> 00:23:19 <v Justin Breen>It's perfect alignment.
00:23:19 --> 00:23:23 <v Justin Breen>So his parents his parents were cotton picking sharecroppers in the South.
00:23:23 --> 00:23:26 <v Justin Breen>He is now a higher level exec on NASDAQ.
00:23:26 --> 00:23:27 <v Justin Breen>He has multiple companies.
00:23:28 --> 00:23:30 <v Justin Breen>The first time he and I talked, he was running a marathon.
00:23:31 --> 00:23:32 <v Justin Breen>He was running a marathon on zoom.
00:23:33 --> 00:23:37 <v Justin Breen>On zoom in Minnesota, he's run almost 400 marathons on seven continents.
00:23:37 --> 00:23:42 <v Justin Breen>He started running because his brother was dying and he said, you need to get healthy, so he started running marathons.
00:23:43 --> 00:23:51 <v Justin Breen>And then Roosevelt invited me to ring the NASDAQ bell closing ceremony, and then people kept asking me what an IPO is, and I don't know what an IPO is.
00:23:51 --> 00:23:52 <v Justin Breen>I don't care what it is.
00:23:52 --> 00:23:53 <v Justin Breen>And they're like, are you doing an IPO?
00:23:53 --> 00:23:55 <v Justin Breen>I go, I don't know what you're talking about.
00:23:55 --> 00:23:58 <v Justin Breen>I can't be more specific than this, but because I'm like, oh, that's a good idea.
00:23:58 --> 00:24:01 <v Justin Breen>I'll just go ring the NASDAQ bell at closing ceremony.
00:24:01 --> 00:24:06 <v Justin Breen>I met the person who has agreed to do the forward for my book, which I can't say publicly, but it's a very big deal.
00:24:06 --> 00:24:11 <v Justin Breen>So that's what that's just how life is when you don't overthink things.
00:24:11 --> 00:24:16 <v Justin Breen>You just take action and you make no excuses ever.
00:24:16 --> 00:24:18 <v Carrie Richardson>I can't really think of any questions to ask you.
00:24:19 --> 00:24:22 <v Carrie Richardson>I'm Enjoying hearing how you move through the world.
00:24:22 --> 00:24:23 <v Justin Breen>Thank you.
00:24:23 --> 00:24:25 <v Justin Breen>The word I hear more than anything is refreshing.
00:24:25 --> 00:24:26 <v Justin Breen>That's what I hear.
00:24:26 --> 00:24:28 <v Justin Breen>I hear that multiple times a day.
00:24:28 --> 00:24:31 <v Justin Breen>I know I've been given a gift, it's a great responsibility.
00:24:33 --> 00:24:46 <v Justin Breen>It's been very painful, but it's a responsibility and it would be a disservice to humanity not to share this gift as it's a disservice to humanity for any visionary not to share their gifts or for any human for that matter.
00:24:47 --> 00:24:51 <v Justin Breen>But most people make excuses their whole life and it just ruins everything.
00:24:52 --> 00:24:56 <v Justin Breen>It ruins everything because they make excuses and they don't share their gift.
00:24:56 --> 00:24:57 <v Justin Breen>So I guess that's what's next for me.
00:24:57 --> 00:24:58 <v Justin Breen>I'll keep sharing my gift.
00:24:59 --> 00:25:00 <v Justin Breen>So thanks for asking.
00:25:00 --> 00:25:02 <v Carrie Richardson>How do people who are stuck identify their gifts?
00:25:02 --> 00:25:07 <v Carrie Richardson>Or is it more of a, if you don't know what your gift is, you don't have one yet?
00:25:07 --> 00:25:10 <v Justin Breen>Success is the progressive realization of a word, the ideal.
00:25:10 --> 00:25:11 <v Justin Breen>You never stop.
00:25:12 --> 00:25:14 <v Justin Breen>My dad was shot down multiple times in combat.
00:25:14 --> 00:25:16 <v Justin Breen>Many times without a parachute, you get back into a plane.
00:25:16 --> 00:25:19 <v Justin Breen>So if you keep getting shot down, you just get back into the next plane.
00:25:19 --> 00:25:20 <v Justin Breen>No excuses.
00:25:22 --> 00:25:27 <v Justin Breen>And the first chapter of the book is about serendipity.
00:25:27 --> 00:25:35 <v Justin Breen>What that means is, essentially, you do something and then what you weren't looking for is actually what your gift was.
00:25:36 --> 00:25:37 <v Justin Breen>What you weren't looking for.
00:25:37 --> 00:25:39 <v Justin Breen>That's when you actually find it.
00:25:39 --> 00:25:43 <v Justin Breen>So by looking for something, you actually find out what you were supposed to be looking for.
00:25:44 --> 00:25:50 <v Carrie Richardson>So if you think about your father's calling, what if there hadn't been a war?
00:25:51 --> 00:25:54 <v Justin Breen>No, I don't live like, no, wrong question.
00:25:55 --> 00:25:56 <v Justin Breen>People ask me all the time.
00:25:56 --> 00:25:58 <v Justin Breen>Is there anything you would have changed in your life?
00:25:58 --> 00:25:58 <v Justin Breen>Nope.
00:25:59 --> 00:26:02 <v Justin Breen>My parents met, my dad was hit by a drunk driver in his late fifties.
00:26:02 --> 00:26:04 <v Justin Breen>Drunk driver was killed.
00:26:05 --> 00:26:09 <v Justin Breen>My dad miraculously survived, broke every bone in his body.
00:26:09 --> 00:26:12 <v Justin Breen>Not literally, but and then he woke up, thought he was dead.
00:26:12 --> 00:26:13 <v Justin Breen>My mom was an angel.
00:26:13 --> 00:26:15 <v Justin Breen>My mom was his night nurse.
00:26:15 --> 00:26:18 <v Justin Breen>My mom was 27 when I was born, 61 and 27.
00:26:19 --> 00:26:20 <v Justin Breen>Figure it out.
00:26:20 --> 00:26:24 <v Carrie Richardson>So some of it is just purely situational or the universe.
00:26:25 --> 00:26:27 <v Carrie Richardson>Pushing you towards your gift.
00:26:27 --> 00:26:29 <v Justin Breen>Too much overthinking on that.
00:26:29 --> 00:26:31 <v Justin Breen>You just go out and do it and see what happens.
00:26:31 --> 00:26:39 <v Justin Breen>Yeah, so with this book I, I saw with with the book that my dad drew a diary in his or in his diary, drew a map of three cities.
00:26:40 --> 00:26:48 <v Justin Breen>Three cities in one was London, two Paris, and then three, this small town in France called Nancy France, N A N C Y.
00:26:48 --> 00:26:51 <v Justin Breen>And I saw that and I go, Oh, I'm going to Nancy.
00:26:51 --> 00:26:58 <v Justin Breen>So I went to Nancy and then I found the answer to what I was looking for because I saw a map and went for it.
00:26:59 --> 00:27:00 <v Carrie Richardson>So you just start looking.
00:27:02 --> 00:27:04 <v Justin Breen>I don't understand the overthinking.
00:27:04 --> 00:27:05 <v Justin Breen>What if, what now?
00:27:05 --> 00:27:06 <v Justin Breen>You just do it.
00:27:06 --> 00:27:09 <v Justin Breen>And again, most people overthink things their whole life.
00:27:11 --> 00:27:13 <v Carrie Richardson>I feel that in my soul.
00:27:13 --> 00:27:18 <v Carrie Richardson>I can't understand why everyone has to make great big plans before they go out and execute It's illogical.
00:27:18 --> 00:27:19 <v Carrie Richardson>Go do it.
00:27:19 --> 00:27:22 <v Justin Breen>One, because they're low quick starts and they're afraid of risk.
00:27:22 --> 00:27:26 <v Justin Breen>And two, most people are not visionaries because to be great is to be misunderstood.
00:27:26 --> 00:27:29 <v Justin Breen>If the entire world was a visionary, it'd be a complete disaster.
00:27:29 --> 00:27:31 <v Justin Breen>There would be, it'd be anarchy chaos.
00:27:33 --> 00:27:41 <v Justin Breen>But so when you ask, like, when you ask a question like that, I can't understand it really because a true visionary would just do it.
00:27:41 --> 00:27:42 <v Justin Breen>They wouldn't be stuck.
00:27:44 --> 00:27:45 <v Justin Breen>They wouldn't be stuck.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:45 <v Justin Breen>They would do everything.
00:27:45 --> 00:27:47 <v Justin Breen>They would never stop.
00:27:47 --> 00:27:48 <v Justin Breen>No matter what ever.
00:27:48 --> 00:27:49 <v Justin Breen>Okay.
00:27:49 --> 00:27:56 <v Justin Breen>When people realize they're the problem and not to blame anyone else, then a lot of problems are solved when you realize you're the problem.
00:27:57 --> 00:27:58 <v Justin Breen>Stop being the problem.
00:27:58 --> 00:28:00 <v Justin Breen>Stop making excuses.
00:28:00 --> 00:28:02 <v Justin Breen>But most people make excuses and live in fear.
00:28:02 --> 00:28:03 <v Justin Breen>That's just how it is.
00:28:04 --> 00:28:07 <v Justin Breen>And I don't think about that because if you're your own problem, I can't help you.
00:28:08 --> 00:28:09 <v Justin Breen>Unless you realize it.
00:28:10 --> 00:28:12 <v Justin Breen>But a true visionary knows that they're the problem.
00:28:12 --> 00:28:13 <v Justin Breen>They'll do whatever they can to fix it.
00:28:13 --> 00:28:17 <v Justin Breen>That's why I had to create a room where people will actually fix themselves to fix the world.
00:28:19 --> 00:28:19 <v Justin Breen>Pretty simple.
00:28:20 --> 00:28:21 <v Justin Breen>Hard to do, but pretty simple.
00:28:23 --> 00:28:24 <v Carrie Richardson>Simple, not easy.
00:28:24 --> 00:28:25 <v Justin Breen>But no excuses.
00:28:25 --> 00:28:26 <v Justin Breen>You do it.
00:28:26 --> 00:28:26 <v Justin Breen>No matter what.
00:28:30 --> 00:28:32 <v Carrie Richardson>Would the room be overwhelming for someone that didn't belong in it?
00:28:33 --> 00:28:33 <v Justin Breen>Yes.
00:28:34 --> 00:28:34 <v Justin Breen>Immediately.
00:28:34 --> 00:28:37 <v Justin Breen>So what happens when it's someone who's not like this, they hang up.
00:28:38 --> 00:28:49 <v Justin Breen>It doesn't happen much anymore, but in some of the other rooms, again, invest a lot of money in some of the other rooms I'm in, we'll have breakouts and let's say there's four people and two of them are talking like this, the two don't think like this.
00:28:49 --> 00:28:51 <v Justin Breen>They literally will leave the breakout room.
00:28:51 --> 00:28:52 <v Justin Breen>I've seen it happen.
00:28:53 --> 00:28:59 <v Justin Breen>Many times many times they can't handle it because these conversations are mirrors into someone's own soul.
00:28:59 --> 00:29:02 <v Justin Breen>And if their soul is not evolved enough to handle it, they disappear.
00:29:03 --> 00:29:04 <v Justin Breen>They're just not ready for it.
00:29:04 --> 00:29:09 <v Carrie Richardson>Some people can't function without an agenda and an, a goal in mind.
00:29:09 --> 00:29:12 <v Carrie Richardson>Like it has to end somewhere it has to start somewhere.
00:29:12 --> 00:29:14 <v Justin Breen>So people asking what's the agenda for this call?
00:29:14 --> 00:29:24 <v Justin Breen>I go, what are you even, I know immediately if someone asks that they're not a visionary immediately, or someone asks, what do you cost or charge, not a visionary, they're just not,
00:29:25 --> 00:29:29 <v Carrie Richardson>I've always just figured out how to get the things that I needed.
00:29:29 --> 00:29:30 <v Justin Breen>Why?
00:29:30 --> 00:29:31 <v Justin Breen>Of course, simple, but not easy.
00:29:32 --> 00:29:33 <v Justin Breen>Figure it out.
00:29:33 --> 00:29:35 <v Carrie Richardson>I don't have any more questions for you.
00:29:35 --> 00:29:36 <v Justin Breen>You ask great ones.
00:29:36 --> 00:29:40 <v Carrie Richardson>If somebody wants to learn more about Epic Fit Network, where do we go?
00:29:41 --> 00:29:41 <v Justin Breen>TheEpicFit.
00:29:41 --> 00:29:42 <v Justin Breen>com.
00:29:42 --> 00:29:43 <v Justin Breen>TheEpicFit.
00:29:43 --> 00:29:44 <v Justin Breen>com.
00:29:45 --> 00:29:45 <v Carrie Richardson>TheEpicFit.
00:29:45 --> 00:29:45 <v Carrie Richardson>com.
00:29:45 --> 00:29:46 <v Justin Breen>Yep.
00:29:49 --> 00:29:49 <v Carrie Richardson>Thank you.
00:29:50 --> 00:29:50 <v Justin Breen>You're welcome.
00:29:50 --> 00:29:53 <v Justin Breen>Thank you means acknowledging the other person's humanity.
00:29:53 --> 00:29:59 <v Justin Breen>So we learned that in the group from one of our members who bought the second flying car in the United States, and then he taught the group what thank you means.
00:29:59 --> 00:30:01 <v Justin Breen>Acknowledging the other person's humanity.
00:30:01 --> 00:30:02 <v Justin Breen>Just learned that one.
00:30:02 --> 00:30:03 <v Justin Breen>That was a good one.
00:30:03 --> 00:30:04 <v Carrie Richardson>I didn't know that.
00:30:04 --> 00:30:05 <v Justin Breen>Of course not.
00:30:05 --> 00:30:06 <v Justin Breen>No one knows what they're saying.
00:30:06 --> 00:30:07 <v Justin Breen>They don't.
00:30:07 --> 00:30:09 <v Justin Breen>They're just saying words and they don't know.
00:30:10 --> 00:30:12 <v Justin Breen>But it's, that's, it's fun, right?
00:30:12 --> 00:30:13 <v Justin Breen>Like business, anxiety.
00:30:14 --> 00:30:15 <v Justin Breen>That's what it means.
00:30:15 --> 00:30:17 <v Carrie Richardson>In yoga, we would say namaste.
00:30:20 --> 00:30:20 <v Carrie Richardson>I recognize.
00:30:21 --> 00:30:23 <v Carrie Richardson>I recognize the teacher in you.
00:30:23 --> 00:30:24 <v Carrie Richardson>You recognize the teacher in me.
00:30:24 --> 00:30:26 <v Carrie Richardson>We both have something to learn from each other.
00:30:26 --> 00:30:27 <v Carrie Richardson>Always.
00:30:27 --> 00:30:28 <v Justin Breen>Oh, thank you.
00:30:28 --> 00:30:29 <v Justin Breen>I just learned that.
00:30:29 --> 00:30:29 <v Justin Breen>Thank you.
00:30:30 --> 00:30:30 <v Justin Breen>Thank you.
00:30:32 --> 00:30:34 <v Carrie Richardson>Acknowledging my humanity.
00:30:34 --> 00:30:34 <v Carrie Richardson>I appreciate you.
00:30:36 --> 00:30:37 <v Justin Breen>Active learner.
00:30:37 --> 00:30:39 <v Carrie Richardson>I don't know what I'm gonna do with the rest of my day now.
00:30:39 --> 00:30:41 <v Carrie Richardson>Everything I had today seems dull.
00:30:41 --> 00:30:41 <v Justin Breen>It's okay.
00:30:42 --> 00:30:43 <v Justin Breen>I don't live in that world anymore.
00:30:43 --> 00:30:44 <v Carrie Richardson>I like your world.
00:30:44 --> 00:30:45 <v Justin Breen>It sounds more interesting.
00:30:45 --> 00:30:47 <v Justin Breen>It's far more interesting.
00:30:51 --> 00:30:55 <v Carrie Richardson>I am off to my next call, which I don't think is going to be as interesting as this one.
00:30:55 --> 00:30:56 <v Justin Breen>No chance.
00:30:56 --> 00:30:57 <v Justin Breen>Zero chance of that.
00:30:58 --> 00:31:07 <v Justin Breen>Not zero, but if my calls are not this interesting, they go horribly wrong at this point, horribly wrong, but it's very rare that they're not like this anymore.
00:31:08 --> 00:31:09 <v Justin Breen>But listen to what you just said.
00:31:09 --> 00:31:12 <v Justin Breen>You just said your next call is not going to be like this.
00:31:12 --> 00:31:13 <v Carrie Richardson>They can't all be the same.
00:31:13 --> 00:31:14 <v Carrie Richardson>What would life be like then?
00:31:14 --> 00:31:16 <v Justin Breen>Hey, they can all be this great.
00:31:16 --> 00:31:17 <v Justin Breen>That's my point.
00:31:17 --> 00:31:18 <v Justin Breen>They can.
00:31:18 --> 00:31:18 <v Justin Breen>Okay.
00:31:19 --> 00:31:20 <v Justin Breen>I'm very grateful for your time.
00:31:21 --> 00:31:23 <v Justin Breen>If you need anything else from me please let me know
00:31:24 --> 00:31:29 <v Carrie Richardson>While time may be a construct for you and I, it is not a construct for the person who I have to meet with in one minute.
00:31:29 --> 00:31:31 <v Carrie Richardson>So I will have to go on.
00:31:31 --> 00:31:32 <v Carrie Richardson>I'm going to read your book now.
00:31:32 --> 00:31:35 <v Carrie Richardson>I thought you might've been a crackpot, but now I'm going to go read your book.
00:31:35 --> 00:31:37 <v Justin Breen>That's cause you'll see.
00:31:37 --> 00:31:38 <v Justin Breen>You'll see.
00:31:40 --> 00:31:42 <v Carrie Richardson>I don't think you're a crackpot now
00:31:42 --> 00:31:43 <v Justin Breen>But most people do.
00:31:43 --> 00:31:43 <v Justin Breen>They don't understand.
00:31:45 --> 00:32:02 <v Carrie Richardson>There's like a, when I don't understand someone, I try to put aside every bias that I've brought into the conversation and just listen to them as a person and see what our shared experiences are, don't look for the things that separate me from another person.
00:32:02 --> 00:32:04 <v Carrie Richardson>I look for the things that make me the same as them.
00:32:04 --> 00:32:05 <v Justin Breen>God bless you for
00:32:05 --> 00:32:08 <v Carrie Richardson>I'd rather do this all day than talk about my P and L.
00:32:09 --> 00:32:11 <v Justin Breen>I don't know what P and L means and I don't care.
00:32:11 --> 00:32:11 <v Justin Breen>But yes, great.
00:32:12 --> 00:32:12 <v Justin Breen>Exactly.
00:32:12 --> 00:32:13 <v Justin Breen>I love it.
00:32:13 --> 00:32:14 <v Justin Breen>Okay, you have to get your next call.
00:32:16 --> 00:32:17 <v Justin Breen>You're great.
00:32:18 --> 00:32:18 <v Justin Breen>Au revoir.
00:32:19 --> 00:32:19 <v Carrie Richardson>Au revoir.
