EP14 - Go, Go, Go - Get Moving!

Eric Anthony:

Hey everybody, Eric Anthony here, your friendly neighborhood, all things MSP podcast producer, letting you know that I am going to be at CompTIA Channel Con August 1st through the third. Now, this will be the first time I've ever presented live on stage, my new customer experience framework for building the MSP that you want. Now, what's special about this is I took a customer experience journey and kind of mapped that out to your needs, the needs of your employees and the needs of your clients, and broke it down into distinct sections that you can work on as an MSP owner. Now, very simple steps to follow, but the difference is I'm not telling you how to build the business. I'm telling you what things you need to put together in the way that makes the business uniquely yours. And one of the biggest competitive edges right now that I think any MSP can have is their customer experience. So come join me at CompTIA Channel Con. I actually have a code that will save you $1,200 off the registration price. So use code E a n t h 23 when you're registering for CompTIA, and I will see you there.

Justin Esgar:

So what's one thing you think I need to get for my new studio? Like what's the, cause my, my friends in LA are always like, you need to get a stream, a stream deck. And I'm like, I don't,

Eric Anthony:

I mean, I love mine for even non streaming stuff. I, I've got buttons for word Excel and PowerPoint and you know, I've got mute buttons and stuff to turn my video off on, on Zoom. I've got little timers, you

Justin Esgar:

Know, see, see I have control of my life. I don't need it. <Laugh>.

Eric Anthony:

Well, good for you. But those of us with ADHD do not

Justin Esgar:

Today we're talking about what to do to control your life. Eric has his in a little stream deck and I have a notebook with a lot of colored pencils. <Laugh>.

Eric Anthony:

Well, but I didn't say that was the only way. Like, that's just, that's just to keep me on time or try to, right? Because I have those little timers put on my stream deck. But I used to have, in fact, my wife still makes fun of me even though I do this digitally now. I started out with a bullet journal planner and all of the different colors and stamps and the stickers and the whole nine yards right now. I didn't do pretty, I had reasons for those things, like yeah, logistic, organizational reasons, but she used to say, are you coloring? And I'm like,

Justin Esgar:

<Laugh>,

Eric Anthony:

No, I'm organizing so I can get done.

Justin Esgar:

What's up everybody? Welcome to the All Things M MSSP podcast. I'm your host, Justin Esgar, as always with me is my good friend and OG host and now producer. Mr. Eric Anthony. Eric, what's up buddy?

Eric Anthony:

Having a great time producing this show.

Justin Esgar:

<Laugh>. I've said this before, I've said it once before. I'll say it again. You do all the heavy lifting. I'm just the talking head clown that makes everything sound good.

Eric Anthony:

Well, and speaking of the heavy lifting, not heavy lifting cuz it's really not that hard, right? But the stuff that I do on the backend to support the show we have a couple of new links that people can use. So if you wanna be a guest on the podcast, you can go to at msp link slash podcast to request being on the show. As well as if you want to wink, wink, hint, hint, be a sponsor, you can go to atsp link slash sponsor for more information about sponsorship.

Justin Esgar:

That's awesome. And if you wanna be a guest, remember we're talking to people who wanna help the MSP community. And we also wanna talk to you the MSP community itself. We want you to come on, we wanna talk about your business, we wanna help you through, think about it as like a, a free coaching call, right? Where you can come on, talk about a problem that you're having and Eric and I will tell you what to do and then hold you to it for the rest of your life until you get it done. Cuz follow through is everything. Speaking of following through, here's a man who follows through with every commitment I've ever given him, even if it takes place at four 30 in the morning his time because he's in Australia. Mr. David Lindsay, what's up man?

David Lindsay:

Justin, Eric, thank you very much for having me on board. I'm pumped up and excited to, to share this time with you and the listeners and hope Hopely give 'em some tools that can use straightaway to lift their energy.

Justin Esgar:

So for those who don't know you David, let's give a quick like two minute and then also, I know it's really early in the morning. So what are you planning on having for breakfast today?

David Lindsay:

Yeah, so the quick two minute breakdown, I'm a former athlete. I was a footballer, arm wrestler, cage fighter and injuries stopped my career with all, all of those sports. I realized that there was a gap that we could take their philosophies from sport and bring it across to the corporate world. And that's what I do. I speak about raising vitality because that's what I'm all about. I'm all about raising energy, raising teamwork, raising morale, therefore raising productivity and profitability within the business. So yes, it's four 30 in the morning. I haven't had anything yet. I've got my water ready to go, that I'll be sipping along the way. I'll be heading out to the gym straight after this. Normally, I like going to the gym beforehand, but you know, it is four 30 in the morning here. So I'll go afterwards and I'll have a shake after that as well.

Justin Esgar:

No, knew you were gonna say a shake. I really like, I was waiting for you. Like part part of me was hoping to be like, I'm gonna have a bagel with cream cheese, but no protein shake. It sounds, it's, it's kind of like right on brand with you. Yeah, so thanks for being here, man. So one of the things I wanna talk about today is the fact that like, it's very, and look, I don't, I I know a lot of you listening are gonna take offense to this, but like, you know, this is true, it's very common to find the unhealthy within the m MSSP community. Why? Cuz we sit on our butts all day long in front of a keyboard and like, yeah, standing desks are cool, but they're not actually doing a whole lot. So the reason I, I wanted to bring you on there is like, we need to talk about why it's important that MSP business owners take care of their health and that they should secondarily promote health within their business. And so I wanna talk to you about why and how they can do this. All right, go <laugh>.

David Lindsay:

Yes, certainly, because, well, you look at, look at anything that goes on, you can make so much money, but if you're sick, if you're dead, if you're not performing, if you're in hospital, what's the point in having all of that money, all of that, that luxurious stuff. If you're, you know, you, you're incapacitated, you're in a wheelchair, your, your mind also follows because if you're, if you're overweight, if you are not energetic, your mind tends to wander as well. So it's all about concentration, it's about performance, it's really about raising, like I said, teamwork and morale. Because if I'm, if I'm up there and I'm excited, well it's contagious to the people that are around me. But if I come in and I have a high fat, high sugar donut, I'm relying upon caffeine to keep me going, keep me going. The other people around are gonna follow. Yes, you get those spikes, but you also get the drops as well, which is, if, if you have a healthy lifestyle, you stay hydrated. I've got my water down here, you have nutritious food. Not only does it fuel the body, but it also fuels a mind for peak performance. So don't get that big drop off. You, you get to stay level the whole way. And you notice that it's a high level, it's not a low level as well. So that's what we're all about. We're all about raising energy, morale, productivity and profitability.

Justin Esgar:

And I think that's a key element, right? Because I don't remember, I remember hearing this a long time ago, they said that like, body fat is not just around your stomach, it will seep into your mind. And the idea of that whilst utterly disgusting is that it can, it can slow you down when, especially in a, in, in an industry like ours, which is so critical mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, you know, you have a client who calls you, you have a CEO who calls you and says, Hey, I, I can't print, I gotta print right now. I'm going on, I'm gun on an airplane. You gotta get me fixed. You can't be like hang on a minute, I can't think straight. You gotta be able to jump right into it, right? And so the, the lethargic way of being, which is very common in our industry, and again, like I know people are sitting at home or you guys are sitting in your car right now listening to this going like, is he talking about me? Yeah, I'm talking about you like

David Lindsay:

<Laugh>. Yeah. The reality chick. No,

Justin Esgar:

I'm not talking about not not talking about David, who by the way can like pick me up over his head and throw me six feet across the room <laugh>, right? And don't get me wrong, I'm calling the ghetto black here. I know personally also why I take, why, why I shoot standing up. Cuz you only see me from like the, the elbow line up. But like, I work out, I have a trainer, I'm trying to eat better. Like these are things we have to do because if you can't get into that moment right away, you're gonna lose clients.

David Lindsay:

Mm. And a hundred percent, and what you said Jesse as well is getting a coach training, eating, right? But it, it's all done little bit by little bit. You can't make drastic changes as well because I, I see it all the time myself. People come in, they're overweight, they want to do these changes to change their life, which good on them for doing that. They change so many things at once. They lift stupid amount of weight for the first two, if they make two weeks, the first two weeks and then you don't see them again because they jump feet first in, they damage their muscles, which is what we're intending to do, but they're overriding their system too much and then you don't see 'em again. One thing that I tell people that I train clients as well is its consistency over intensity. The intensity will come, it can be getting up, stepping away from your computer, going for a walk around the block, you know, getting some fresh air, getting the body moving, getting the blood pumping is a great way to get the mind on track as well.

Justin Esgar:

Yeah. I I love the taking a walk thing and I know it, it seems cliche to say it. And, and I'll be honest, this, this summer, I haven't done as much walking as I did last summer. But like when I walked every day last summer and I purposely made myself get up and get outta the house and take a walk around my neighborhood, like it showed, right? Yeah. last year, last year for 2022, I challenged myself to ride my Peloton bike every day for 30 minutes. And I did that every day for an entire year, didn't miss a single day and I made it. And then this year I got to march and then my knee started hurting and I stopped doing it. And now all of a sudden I'm getting fatter again. And I'm like, now I'm hating myself, right? Like body dysmorphia, whatever it is.

And I've ha I have a trainer I'm working out with and I'm getting stronger. I think a lot of it is shifting from my stomach into other, other parts. I I, I'm pretty sure your biceps are still seven times the size of mine <laugh>. But, but like that what you said was consistency is key. And that's something that my trainer says also. And then that's also true in our business, right? The reason Eric and I record every week at the exact same time and put out these shows every week on the exact same day, is that consistency when you build that up and you start small. I mean, we started with what it was a originally Eric, like originally we were just doing a half hour, now we're recording a pre-show, a show, a post-show, all within an hour we're locked in. We've already figured out our schedule. Like you build that up over time. Mm-Hmm Then it becomes, it doesn't become a chore, I think is really what this is about. Right David? Like if you, if you do small incremental steps, it doesn't become a chore. It actually becomes something that like your body wants to do. It's like muscle memory, right? Yeah. Oh, it's eight o'clock, it's four 30, I gotta go. I mean, I'm not getting up at four 30, screw that. But like <laugh> for you, we need

Eric Anthony:

Convince him, David, 4 15, 4 30 is the time to get up.

Justin Esgar:

Okay?

David Lindsay:

That's Tom when the magic happens

Justin Esgar:

Real quick. I remember watching Dwayne the Rock Johnson on an interview one time and apparently he created an app that would wake you, you had an option of setting your own alarm clock or you could wake up when he wakes up and it would automatically push out. So whatever time he woke up, everybody would go. And the best part of it was the alarm clock was his voice going, I could do this all day. That's, it was hilarious. Yeah, I can't, the, I have two little kids at home, I need sleep. But that, that consistency, that small momentum builds it up. And then you get to the point where you're like, well, what I was trying to say was like, you get to the point where like it's four 30 in the morning or seven o'clock in the morning, eight o'clock in the morning when you do your workout and you go, huh, I should be working out right now. And you just do it. You don't even think about it. Mm.

David Lindsay:

Yeah. It becomes habitual. And it's the same as with anything you do. You get up, like people that smoke cigarettes, filthy habit. But, you know, I, I've been talking to people and they stand there and I put, they put a cigarette in and you go, why do you do that? And they weren't even aware that they were doing it. It was just an automatic thing. Yeah. And you want to get away from the bad habits of being like automatic and create good habits. And as you said bit by bit, it's like reading, I, I wasn't a big fan of reading up until only a few years ago because I was so busy doing this, this, this reading just got in the way. But I've forced myself to read five pages and then 10 pages and then before you know it, I really enjoy reading. I've got books around me now because not only do I enjoy the reading, but I enjoy the, the end result, which is me getting more knowledge.

Cause I read, I read books that are personal development books. I don't read, you know, story time books. I, I read books that are gonna help me move forward, that, that are gonna help me get my message out better to people. So seeing the end result as well, like putting on muscle, being more active, you know, you're gonna see the result that you go, man, it's, it's what, four 30 in the morning or four 30 in the afternoon and I feel good. I'm ready to keep on going. It's not, I feel sluggish. And that's what it's all about. It's about energy is one of the rare things. The more you use it, the more you get. So you need to create that energy with yourself. And you do that by training, by being active, by having water, by eating nutritious food. So it's that holistic approach that you need to take as well.

Justin Esgar:

Right? I think it's also really funny that like as MSSP owners, we look up to people, right? Like we look up to the c e of Microsoft Satya and we look up to Sundar over at Google and Tim Cook over at Apple. Like they're all really thin people. Like, like, and I know like Tim Cook's, you know, there's been interviews where he, he gets up at four in the morning and goes for a run and then works out and sits in a sauna and then he checks his email and then he does this, then he eats breakfast. And it like, not that I'm knocking the four 30 thing, but like there's a reason to get up that early, right? And do these exercises. The, and, and what's funny is that like these people, the CEO of Google, Microsoft and Apple are people that we as MSP owners should be idolizing cuz we live in their world and yet we don't saw that we don't follow in their footsteps and we 100% I think should.

David Lindsay:

Yeah. Well it's like with anything, when I was playing football, I'd look at their top rugby league players. What are they doing? What are they doing training, what are they eating? And then you try and model their behavior. Same as when I was fighting. You'd see the elite athletes fighting in the ufc fighting here, fighting in different promotions and try and model their behavior. Now that I've got into speaking, I, I have my favorite speakers. I love watching Eric Thomas Les Brown, Tony Robbins, what are they doing? How are they manipulating their body? How are they manipulating their voice to create a memorable message? Same as like, say with the leaders, the CEOs. These guys are super, super busy and yet they still create time to get active. So you look at the, the guys that are at the top of their game. So you model their behavior.

How are you expected to perform the same as they do if you are overweight, if you're lethargic, if you're dragging your feet along, when you see these guys, like you said, they're getting up early, they train, they jump in the sauna, they do their work early because that's another reason why I do it. I don't necessarily do it because everyone else does, but I think we all do it for the same reason. Because at four o'clock in the morning, you don't have the distractions, you don't have all this noise going on. It's time with training that I can have to myself. It's time doing talks that I can have to myself. It's time working on my book that I can have to myself where it's no distractions from the people that I work with or distractions from external people, people that are from the other side of the world. You know that four to five to six, there's a two two hour window that I can really concentrate and get so much done in that time.

Justin Esgar:

It's funny you talk about that cuz I didn't even realize. So when I wrote my book, apple Lies on your idea. Granted this is now we're going on almost 10 years. I had a real hard time writing it. It wasn't until I went to Japan where I couldn't be bothered and I was on a bullet train for two hours and my wife was sleeping that I wrote 90% of the book, right? Because I wasn't there, there was zero way for people to distract me. So like, if you can't go to Japan and get on a train four 30 in the morning might be something that you wanna look at. <Laugh>,

David Lindsay:

Definitely. It's, it's a time when you can be super productive. Like you said, my, my wife, she's still asleep. She's a normal sort of person. She'll probably be asleep by the time I get back from the gym. But it's this time that I have, I get to spend it just with you guys, just with the listeners. I don't have all these other noises going on. And you can get so much done in a very short amount of time if you're single focused. And that's what so many people, you know, they try multitask. It doesn't work.

Justin Esgar:

I'd be remiss to ask, when you go to the gym, what are you working on today when you go to the gym, you doing, you're doing ch chest and shoulders today because I feel like today's a shoulders day.

David Lindsay:

<Laugh>, it's an everyday chest and shoulders day. Now I'll be putting on my gloves, I'll be doing his superset where I'll, I'll be on the bag with my M gloves, then go to a rope, then to an assault bike, then doing some intervals on the treadmill. And I'm gonna work probably about 45, 50 minutes of that and be wiped out. And then I'm gonna go practice my talk after that. Cuz I love practicing my talk when I'm mentally and physically exhausted. Because if I can train my mind to do it in that sort of time, under that sort of stress while the cleaners are around doing it, I put headphones on and I have crowd noise just to increase the stress when I go out and perform so much more fun, I can be truly in the moment because I'm not up in my head, I'm with the audience.

Justin Esgar:

Right. I'm just exhausted hearing about your workout. I still have to do my, my trainer has challenged me to do anywhere between 60 and a hundred Russian twists every day for 30 days. And I'm on day like seven. And I still have to do my day, which I'll do after this call. But like if I, and I missed the day one, so I'm actually, this is my second time trying to get 30 days in a row, <laugh>. But so this is what we're talking about, right? Like for those who are listening, like stop for a minute and think about how much better you would be with a clear mind.

David Lindsay:

Mm. How much

Justin Esgar:

Would be, if you can spring out of your chair a little bit better, think about when you have to go up and down the stairs in your house and your knees don't hurt, like Mm. All of those things compound. They're exponentially dangerous. It's not just one and then another. It literally is exponentially dangerous to the Yeah, to your own. Forget health, but your wealth, your wellbeing, and then your company's wealth.

David Lindsay:

Mm. A hundred percent because, and it all starts from the top as well because if you are the, the boss of your business, you're your business owner, people are looking up to you like how, like you said, looking up to the CEOs of Microsoft, of Apple, looking up to those guys as a owner of a business, people are looking up to you getting guidance that you may not even be aware of looking at you. Yeah. So you wanna be a good role model for them. So how can you role model proactivity so you can role model that by actually getting away from the office, clearing your head, going for a walk. Because having a lunch break, when I do a talk, I ask people how many people have a lunch break? And so many people say it is a badge of honor. No, I've worked my way through lunch.

Again, that's how dedicated I am to the job. And really it, it's counterproductive. It seems like, yes, I'm gonna sit at my computer, I'm gonna get so much more done. But it's like sprinting. You can't sprint. Well a lot of the pe a lot of people can't even sprint a hundred meters these days. But you don't sprint a kilometer, you pace it out. But what the same bolt does is he sprints a hundred meters, then he recovers and then he goes again and again, you have to think of your mind as a muscle that you want it to be sprinting. You want it to get a lot done in a small amount of time, but then you need to allow it to recover. You allow your mind to recover so that you can sprint again. So you can sprint again. And there's a technique called the Pomodoro technique that's been scientifically proven to help you attain more information and be more productive. And that's where you work in short, intense chunks. But then you get up and move, you hydrate, you talk to people, then you come back and you do it again and again and again. Work. It's funny,

Justin Esgar:

Pomodoro, because we, Eric and I were just talking about timers and I was literally gonna talk about Pomodoro before you came in. Yeah.

Eric Anthony:

So he was making fun of me earlier before we started the show about my timers on my stream deck. And that's exactly what I use them for. Right? Mm. So that right here at the computer, if I know that I need to work for 25 minutes, I hit the 25 minute button. After the 25 minutes is up, I take that five minutes, I get up, I go downstairs, maybe it's just a walk downstairs and walk back up the stairs. I don't know. But, you know, yeah, it gets me reset a little bit. Yeah,

Justin Esgar:

Yeah,

David Lindsay:

Yeah. I, I love it. And like you said, it's, you get up and so you're not sitting at your screen waiting for that that couple of minutes. But it's getting up, moving, getting some blood, pumping, getting away, being able to talk to people. Our minds are funny, funny things that if we give ourselves 25 minutes, like you said with the timer, Eric, it's you, it's amazing how much you can get done in 25 minutes. But if you put the same timer for an hour, you probably, you, your mind goes, okay, I have an hour to get the same amount of work done. So our mind finds ways to fill out time, whether it's you, you think you're productive, but you're not. Your mind's just playing tricks on you. Which is why it's great to have Justin, like you mentioned your coach before, where they keep you accountable.

Eric, you were talking about your timer, the 25 minutes. It keeps you accountable to get however much you need to get done in that time, as opposed to just going on a whim, I'm going to get this done eventually and eventually becomes ne never. But having that, that structure, it's amazing. Yeah. How, how much we can get done. And that's something I keep talking about, keep pushing. And people, once I've done it for a little while, they go, oh, it works. Yes, it does work. You just have to put in the work for it to work.

Justin Esgar:

Yeah. And it's, it's very similar, like when you were in college or university and like, you have three weeks to write a paper, when did you do it? Everybody. Everybody did it the night before. Yeah. Nobody did it three weeks early, right? Like it's that same thing. So having that clear mind, clear body drink more water. I mean, I know water is a, here's the thing, like water is weird because everybody always knew that water was good for you. But now like you have people like fitness, people like yourself who are like all water all the time, blah, blah, blah. And you still have people who are like, eh, I don't know. I'm still getting on the water thing. And my favorite water person, by the way, there's a dude on TikTok, he's the water sommelier. I dunno if you've seen this guy, but like he talks about how water's not just water and he like picks apart like whose water is the best and hashtag not a sponsor Liquid death, which I drink their sparkling is probably one of the best ones.

 But like the water thing, I, what I really find it funny also is that like there really is an app for everything. So like there's apps to keep track of your stuff you know, put your to-do list. There's apps to keep track of being healthy. There's apps like Pomodoro. I found a new one called Water Llama. And it records. I record every time I drink and I have to hit a hundred ounces of hydration. Not just water hydration today. Cause I drink a lot of iced tea, but like iced tea's not bad. When it has no sugar, if you have sugar and it different story. So like I drink a non sweetened DIC tea and I drink a lot of water and if I don't fill my little, my little water, my, I picked a lot. I picked a otter as my animal because I'm, cause I'm cute like that as you, if I don't fill my otter every day, you know, I don't, I feel bad about things. And you know, you keep running total and it's got a tracker how many days in a row and you can win, you know, in game prizes. Not that they mean anything, but like all of these things are out there. Okay, so water, how much I, I drink a hundred ounces, but I, I think was a reason I do that. Like how much water should somebody be drinking the day?

David Lindsay:

Well, there, there's so many different variables in there. I drink a lot more than most because I'm gonna be sweating it out in like an hour and a half time. So you have to take everything into account as well. If it's summer, you're gonna drink more water as well. But I just say like, I don't necessarily keep a count on it myself. I just go make sure you have some there. And even when you feel hungry or when you just, you have, you know 30 seconds, you just go pick it up. Just have some there available at all times because you, you're gonna get, if you don't have it there available, you're gonna get to the end of the day and go, oh, you know what? I've been through the whole day without any water. So don't rely upon a bubbler, you know, at the end of the office or don't rely about about the tap in the kitchen, have water within arms reach.

And just whenever you think about it, whenever you see it, you spot it. You drink it. Because those little bits, like with training, little by little, they're gonna add up. What people have to be aware of is will take a week or two weeks for your body to get used to having that amount of water. Because originally I think it's funny that when you're dehydrated, your body doesn't absorb the water when it comes in, when you're dehydrated and your body's used to being in that dehydrated state, when you drink water, it goes in and then it comes out just as quick. So you have to train your body to be able to absorb and utilize the water. It's like I saw a really good study that, well it wasn't a study, good footage that was done with grass and it had grass that was in a drought.

And so they had a cup and they put water on it and they opened it up and it didn't absorb the water. Whereas a green, lush grass, they opened it up and it absorbed the water. So you have to train your body to be able to take in the water and therefore utilize it. So just be aware, the first week or two you might be going, oh man, I have to go through the toilet again. Go through it. The benefits like with lifting weights, like with training, they don't come instant. That's one thing that I keep pushing with people as well is forget about instant gratification. There's very few things that are instantly gratified. It's the long term. That's where you get the results. Keep an eye on the future and the goals.

Justin Esgar:

Right. I didn't know that about the wa I didn't know that about the, the absorption of water thing. Like, because I, it's funny, like growing up you know, water was a, obviously water was a thing. It, it existed <laugh>. But like

David Lindsay:

Imagining

Justin Esgar:

At the, at the dinner table, we had a glass and there was some water in it and like that was it. Or I had some water throughout the day from a water fountain or a hose or whatever it is. Now. My kids will not go a foot and a half without, my son has four water bottles strewn around the house, always drinking from them. He has one at the dinner table. He has one with him at school. Like they used to not do that. Right? Like when we went to school Mm, you wouldn't allow water in the classroom. Now I have things from the teachers being like, so and so we we're allowing second water bottles cuz they're not, they're drinking so much. Like it's insane how much like we've approved water and, and how much more changed? Honestly, the water market, the marketing people behind water have got it locked. <Laugh> <laugh>.

David Lindsay:

Oh, they certainly do. Yeah. The, the $8 bottle of water, the best bottle of water. But yeah, like my, my daughter's the same. She ha she carries a water around with her all the time. She has it sitting on, on the edge of her bed as well. Like when I go to her go, I go, Jacobi, where's your water bottle? She goes, you know where it is? I go, okay, I know where it is. You know where it is. You go get it and I'll fill it up for you. But it's about, yeah, they have it all the time. A great habit to get into.

Justin Esgar:

Yeah, I think it's, I think it's a, I think it's a super positive way of looking at it. I think it's a great habit to get into it. It's just, I questioned this the other day. I was talking to Michelle and I was like, when did water become a thing? Like when did we all all of a sudden decide that like, everyone's gonna have a water. Like I have like four of these water bottles, you know, I have one here. I have won my office also. Like when did that become a thing? Also, I, I don't know. Okay, let me, I'm gonna ask you a question. This is a personal question. How do you take your water? Are you like lukewarm? Do you like it ice cold? Do you like it with ice? Without ice? Do you put mimo flavoring in? Like how do you take your water? I drink

David Lindsay:

It. I drink it. It doesn't bother me. Whether it's wa like I don't really like warm water. My wife, yeah, I just, whatever's available, like you said, being, growing up like in the, in the nineties you'd have, and also in the eighties as well. I'm a very old man. But you'd go to the hose, you'd let the first part of the hose run out, which was right hot because it had the the sun and the

Justin Esgar:

City of the hose. Yeah.

David Lindsay:

Yeah. And you go there we go. I just, I just make sure I have it. Whether it's cold, whether it's warm. I don't really like flavored. I just gimme straight out water. Water from the bubble. Water from the, the tap. Yeah. I don't need any expensive water that needs to be bottled and, you know, blessed by someone up in the Himalayan Mountains. Just gimme water. Good old fashioned water

Justin Esgar:

For those who listen on YouTube literally holding up the liquid def can. Cause we, it's one, this is one of the few things I drink on air when we do the show. Eric, how do you take your water? Oh, you muted. Can't do that one again. Now, now we have to cut and edit. Eric, how do you take your

Eric Anthony:

Water? Or we make it funny because, you know, I was on mute. Yeah. no, I just, you know, in my knockoff Yeti Tumblr right out the tap, and I mean, Justin to an, to answer your question from a few minutes ago, I think, and, and David you hit on this a little bit too. I think there was a change, like when I was growing up, we weren't allowed inside, right? So we had to drink out of the hose. That's just the way it was. That's where, that is the liquid. That was the refreshment that was available to us,

David Lindsay:

Right? Yeah. The lifesaver.

Eric Anthony:

And then somewhere along the way that changed. And so kids got Kool-aid and sodas and teas because they could just go to the refrigerator and mom and dad kept it stocked, right? Yeah. That didn't happen for me, by the way, just to be clear. And then all, you know, we start drinking all this stuff that's not good for us. And then people started realizing it and going, oh, we should really go back to that water stuff. <Laugh>.

Justin Esgar:

Yeah. Cause cause when I think healthy, I think Kool-Aid ecto cooler, like the name alone is not I and you by the way, you can still buy them. I, I, I saw this show. I know we're on a tangent, but you know, our show full of tangent, <laugh> the guy he used to do, man versus food had a show in Hulu where he rive revisited all of his like nineties iconic foods. And he visited someone who had like a Ghostbuster's museum who had a Capri. Oh, it was Capri's son, ecto cooler. And the guy let him drink it. And it was, I, Adam, the host was just like, this is gross. It's like, yeah. Cause the thing has been in a pouch for 20 something years. There's probably mold in it. Like, don't drink that. Drink water. Alright? So

David Lindsay:

If there isn't some bad stuff in it, you go, what are they putting in it? What chemicals are in there to keep it good for 25 or 30 years? You just go, man, it's, you don't want to think about that.

Justin Esgar:

You don't wanna think about that. Okay? So get up, move a little bit, then slowly move more and more and more. Drink more water. Read books. I mean, what we're talking about here isn't rocket science. No.

It's just you have to be motive. Like I fear that the people who are listening can, will not be motivated enough to do it. I need, I want, I want, all right, here's what I'm gonna ask you, David. I want like the metaphorical punch in the face for them to like, stop what they're, well, don't stop listening to the podcast. Listen to the end of the podcast, then put your, put your device down and then do this. And whatever it is David says to do, you're gonna do it. Okay? So if you're listening, you're gonna listen to the end of the show. Wait for the end credits, wait for Eric to say something snarky about our website, and then, and then you're gonna do what David tells you to do. Ready? Okay, David, tell him what to do.

David Lindsay:

Okay, let's go. You, you've got your body wherever you are, you can do 10 pushups. 10 squats. Repeat that. You only have to do that five times. And then that's a start. That can be the very first part in starting to move forward, being a better role model for your family and friends, being a better role model for the people that you work at, being more productive. And when you're more productive, you're more profitable. So there's so many positive bonuses to go along with it, but yet you're sitting on your ass and that that doesn't help anyone. What you can also do is organize groups to go out and talk about things, about things not work. Talk about things outside of work, have hobbies outside of work. Do rock climbing, do martial arts. I I got into fighting. You don't necessarily have to do that.

That's for people that are a little bit silly, little bit crazy, but get out and move your body. And it's not gonna happen overnight. Like I said, people that want instant gratification. It, it doesn't work. Keep your eye the long-term goal, being more active, but looking and feeling better. Don't even worry too much about the looks, but you feel so much better. You have more clarity of mind when you have the clarity of mind, like Justin was talking about earlier on. You are talking to the c o CEO on the phone. You can come up with, with problem solvers, you can solve the problems straight away. You don't have to go, ah, just I need 10 minutes for the caffeine to kick in. No, you're ready to go right from the moment you wake up, you're ready to go.

Justin Esgar:

All right. So everyone's giving you 10 pushups. Everyone's gonna do 10 pushups and 10 squats. And if you don't know how to do it, you can Google what to do. And then you're gonna write in and, and I want you to comment on this podcast episode with, boy, are my arms Tired? <Laugh>?

David Lindsay:

Yeah. Done. Or even just done. Exclamation point. Done. Exclamation point, exclamation point.

Justin Esgar:

All right. I have one more request for you, David, because this is common over on that side of town for you. I'm more of New Zealand than Australia, so you know where I'm going with this one. And we don't do it here in the States, and I really feel like we should do it. And for those who are listening and not watching, you're gonna wanna come back and watch the YouTube video because we need the views anyway. But I'm gonna have David, it's gonna wake up his wife. I'm gonna have David do the haka first I want you to explain what the haka is and then I want you to do one for us, please.

David Lindsay:

<Laugh>. No, I I'm not gonna do it. But what I'll do, I'll take elements from it and gonna help everyone increase their energy in an instant. So what what it is, I'd love, they, they do it at, at the start of every All Blacks game. They do it even at the tall blacks. So the New Zealand basketball team, they do it, you know, any international event, it's a war dance, it's a war cry. And they get their body moving, ba ba ba ba. So they're not only just getting their body moving, but they're chanting as well. So they're chanting and the whole team's doing it, and the whole team's doing it, and it builds up the energy. If you've never seen it done before, highly recommend go check it out on YouTube. But what I do is, you know, Justin, I everyone to do this at the end of my talk.

So it's about raising the energy. So what I want everyone to do, whether you're listening, whether you're watching stand up, and we are just gonna move around a little bit just to get the blood blood flowing. So what you're gonna do, you're gonna stand tall. That's it. I love that. Getting the body alive, we're gonna stand till we're gonna do something physical. We're gonna do something verbal that's gonna change us at a mental state. So you're either gonna slap your thighs or slap your chest, then let it out primal raw. And that is gonna wake you up. That's gonna wake everyone up. Like Justin said, let's gonna wake my wife up, my daughter up. And she, they're, they're right at the front of the house, so it's all good. So we're just gonna stand nice and tall, shoulders back. That way we can really get the energy coming in on the can of three. I'm gonna do it. You guys are gonna do it. Everyone's gonna do it. We're gonna either slap your thighs or slap your chest and let a primal roar Ready. 1, 2, 3. Yes,

Justin Esgar:

That right?

David Lindsay:

And I always get so excited with that, that I get to the point where almost lose my voice when I do that. But I love it because it gets everything going, gets everything moving, gets you mentally, spiritually moving, which is, that's what we need. We need that energy. You can do it every time you walk into a room. Yes. Use a doorframe as an example. I tap on the side. Yes. And then you come in. So it doesn't always need to be Yes. But it just, yes, you do it to yourself. Yes, yes, yes. And then you're gonna start the day with a shebang bang, which is what it's all about, you know? And like I said, right at the start, it's catchy. People are gonna go, oh man, I wonder what Justin and Eric and David are on. I want some of what they're on. And you go, you know what? You can have it. And it's gonna become that, that positivity side of things. It's gonna catch one, becomes two, becomes four, becomes eight, then the whole office is just energized. And what a place to be.

Justin Esgar:

I love it. If you haven't seen it, go to YouTube and lick for the All Blacks. It's the New Zealand rugby team. All blacks, haka. It's very popular there. They do it in a lot of different places. Do check that out. All right, David, that was awesome. Thank you so much. Where can people find you online and where can they find to connect with you so you can kick their asses on a more regular basis?

David Lindsay:

Beautiful. I'm quite active on LinkedIn, so find me there. I generally do two or three videos a week just with little hints and tips where you can improve yourself day by day by day. So yeah, find me on LinkedIn or feel free to email me as well at David David Lindsay idsa y.com au. I just love help helping people. And the further I can get this message like I've spoken with you before, Justin, the more we can get the message out, the more impact we can have, the happier we are. And that's what it's all about.

Justin Esgar:

That is what it's all about. Well thank you so much for being here, man. Eric, any closing words? Are you, you feeling okay over there? Any closing words? <Laugh>?

Eric Anthony:

I'm feeling great. I actually got up at four 15 this morning. Took my mile walk, you know, drank my 12 ounces of water before I took that walk. So yeah, we're gonna get you on the four 15 boat.

Justin Esgar:

Yeah, try. Yes. How we gonna end? Show with me four 15, go. Okay. That's how we're gonna end the show. Don't forget to join us at facebook.com/group/all things msp. Check out our YouTube at youtube.com/at all things msp like, subscribe, leave a comment, leave a once hour review. Remember, you're, you're not hurting our ego just tells us that you're listening. A lot of great stuff coming up in the next couple of weeks. Do subscribe on your favorite podcast app. Subscribe on our YouTube. If you have questions, check out the new at MSP link slash podcast to be a guest. If you have questions about it, join the Facebook group. There's a new Facebook chat that's going on. We're gonna be talking in there through the new face through Facebook messenger. Everything's happening there. Join, subscribe, like, comment, follow, share, follow and connect with David. Do a haka, drink some more water. And that's it for us over the A T M S P podcast. Bye.