Bruce Jones on being black, the murder of George Floyd, and the importance of dialogue

This podcast episode was recorded on June 2, as our country reels from the murder of George Floyd and protests and riots have broken out in every single state demanding justice and change. I asked my long-time friend, Bruce Jones, to have an honest conversation with me about race. Since this is a podcast, for context I’ll tell you that Bruce is a black man, and I am a white man. What Bruce shares is vulnerable, insightful, and challenging. I hope you’ll lean in, listen, and learn from him.