In this talk at #LionGuard #RoarCon, Ian Richardson (Fox & Crow Group) breaks down the exact framework he built from 16 years running an MSP and analyzing sales data from over 1,000 MSPs across North America. You'll learn why objections happen (hint: it's almost never about you), the 3-step process for handling any objection at the top of the funnel, and how to turn "I don't believe you can help" and "you cost too much" into closed deals.
What you'll learn:
- The only 7 objections that exist in MSP/IT sales — and which bucket every objection falls into
- The Acknowledge → Redirect → Ask framework for top-of-funnel objections
- How to handle "we don't need IT," "we already have IT support," "we don't take sales calls," dead air, and hostile prospects
- Why "I don't believe you can help" and price objections happen at the proposal table — and how to prevent them during discovery
- How to monetize pain and gain so budget objections never show up in the room
- The exact language for closing: "Do you believe my plan will help?" and "Would you like my help?"
- How to handle a "maybe" without getting ghosted (and when to walk away for good)
Chapters:
0:00 Intro — Ian Richardson & Fox and Crow
00:00 Fox and Crow's 3 buckets: systems/process, scale, legacy/exit
00:00 What this talk covers: objections vs. closing
00:00 Why objections happen (it's almost never about you)
00:00 The Toyota 5 Whys and the only 7 objections in MSP sales
00:00 The MSP sales funnel: suspect → prospect → proposal → close → referral
00:00 3-step framework: Acknowledge, Redirect, Ask
00:00 Objection 1: "We don't need IT"
00:00 Objection 2: "We already have IT well in hand"
00:00 Objection 3: "We don't take sales calls"
00:00 Objection 4: Dead air / hang-ups
00:00 Objection 5: Hostile prospects (and why you disqualify them)
00:00 In-the-room objection: "I don't believe you can help"
00:00 In-the-room objection: Price / "you cost too much"
00:00 Monetizing pain and gain during discovery
00:00 Closing the deal: asking for the business
00:00 Handling "maybe" and ghost-busting follow-ups
00:00 Q&A: when to walk away from a stalled deal
About Fox and Crow:
Fox and Crow works with MSPs on organic growth (systems, sales, and scaling a leadership team) and on legacy realization (exiting/selling an MSP). Ian Richardson ran an MSP for 16 years before selling it in 2021, with deep experience in healthcare IT. Carrie Simpson brings 10 years of MSP deal-sourcing and call center data to the partnership.
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This talk was sponsored by LionGuard (Attack Surface Management) — thank you for supporting the MSP community.
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